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Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/7/2010 12:02:49 AM

chuggin

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Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness

While reviewing my clubs history (PSTR), I started to realize a weakness in almost all dirt bike clubs in New England. We are missing unity. Yes we have a common desire to preserve riding and riding areas but we are lacking a common voice at the state level. A single club may handle an issue with their local state forest that could have repercussions for every other state forest and users.
For example; about 10 years ago clubs were given no choice but to sign an unfair MOA with the state. (Unfair because we are the only user group doing any work.) The point isn’t if the MOA’s are good or bad. The point is we didn’t have a unified voice to the state and still don’t. As one club went, all clubs had to go. Basically, no choice. I think clubs have done a great job handling all kinds of attacks from all directions but we still have a weak point.
In another post in this forum, (NEDB, MA Forest and Park Friends Network), list another possible threat. Good people from our clubs and this forum usually step up to attend these community meetings in which dirt bikes are the target. This “Park Friends Network” is going to pick who represents us at their meeting. Shouldn’t we pick who represents us? They are going to try to legitimize their agenda by saying they included us in their plans.
Our clubs need to unify, create a plan unique to the individual state’s threat and have people selected to represent us with the facts, knowledge, and curriculum needed to answer these threats. We should know our best voices are speaking for us. When some group is putting pressure on us and saying one of “our” reps was present at table, we should know who was representing us and what he was saying. We should know he was well prepared to handle the threats and we picked who represents us, not them.

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/7/2010 7:23:32 AM

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Great points.

I probably shouldn't add my 2 cents as I can't even come to terms with why we need to answer to some grassroots organization of volunteers that has been in existence for barely two years and how they could possibly have more pull with the DCR than us.

My suggestion.... Change the name of NETRA to 'FONEFT.... Friends of New England Forest Trails'. Apparently all you need to do is have the name 'Friend of' in your org name and you immediately have more pull with the morons running the State of MA DCR.

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/7/2010 8:44:41 AM

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What you describe is NETRA is it not? Your saying NETRA is the weak link?

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/7/2010 9:02:03 AM

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quote:

My suggestion.... Change the name of NETRA to 'FONEFT.... Friends of New England Forest Trails'. Apparently all you need to do is have the name 'Friend of' in your org name and you immediately have more pull with the morons running the State of MA DCR. ORIGINAL: Rooks

I like how the Vermonters have the club name "Cycle Conservation Club of Vermont", and they are a registered non-profit 501(c)3 organization.

http://www.cccofvt.org/about

Any reason why NETRA cannot be rename Cycle Conservation Club of New England or something like Brian suggested within the next couple of years?

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/7/2010 7:44:13 PM

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New England Trail Conservancy!!

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/7/2010 7:51:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: skid Jackson New England Trail Conservancy!!

I like it! Easy to say the abbreviation too - "net-see".

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/7/2010 8:31:32 PM

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yah but they will get junk mail from PETA ASPCA Sierra club and Audobon people!

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/7/2010 9:23:31 PM

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In this economy....the quickest way for us to make an impact and bring the right people to the negotiation table is to have everyone stop paying for the yellow plates.

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/8/2010 11:39:45 AM

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AGREED! they give money to the opposition and we get zero in return..

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/8/2010 12:34:42 PM

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How about "Terra Club" - "terra" meaning land? It sounds enough like Sierra Club to get people confused.

In eastern Mass, "terror" is pronounced "terra", so maybe that name would not be so good.......

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/8/2010 2:55:29 PM

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good idea !.......

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/8/2010 10:43:37 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: gixxerw

What you describe is NETRA is it not? Your saying NETRA is the weak link?

I would like to see a level in between the local club and Netra. MA Trail Riders Association / Conn.Trailriders / RI etc. Remember, one club makes a deal (good or bad) in their local state forest, we all have to abide by it. If its a good deal it seems to be secret,if its bad they want to do it in all the state forest.

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/9/2010 10:32:08 AM

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Why don't you start this new organization! It's certainly needed.

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ORIGINAL: chuggin
I would like to see a level in between the local club and Netra. MA Trail Riders Association / Conn.Trailriders / RI etc. Remember, one club makes a deal (good or bad) in their local state forest, we all have to abide by it. If its a good deal it seems to be secret,if its bad they want to do it in all the state forest.

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/9/2010 12:17:09 PM

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I think race sanctioning and lobbying should be seperate. One or the other always gets less attention. NETRA does a decent job with the race stuff but lobbying/legislative seems to take a back seat as evidence by RI having no legal riding, CT having no legal riding besides the dam, and Mass losing forest's left and right.

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/9/2010 5:39:38 PM

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New England Trail Conservancy

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/9/2010 5:45:52 PM

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It's AVAILABLE!!!!!

newenglandtrailconservancy.com
$10.95

newenglandtrailconservancy.net $10.95

newenglandtrailconservancy.org $10.95

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/9/2010 6:57:11 PM

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.org would probably be the way to go.

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/9/2010 8:24:26 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: jimmcc

.org would probably be the way to go.

+2 on the .org

"conserving trails for public recreation..."

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/10/2010 7:18:15 AM

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This is a great concept IMO. Maybe like regionalation a group that combines the efforts and organization of RIOHVA, CCCT, CCCVT. I think I got the accronims wrong but you know what I mean.

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RE: Dirt Bike Clubs Weakness - 3/10/2010 7:52:33 PM

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NECCC

New England Cycle Conservation Club might work too ....
acronym might be a little confusing with the race guys though ...

CCCoNE

Cycle Conservation Club of New England???

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