New England Dirt Bikes

Register | Login | Log Out | Forums | Photo Gallery | Calendars | FAQ | Member List | Search | Who's Online | Active Topics
My Profile | My Inbox | My Address Book | My Subscriptions | My Forums | RSS Feed | Ticket List

MA Forest and Park Friends Network

 
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [Dirt Bikes General] >> [Dirtbiking and the Law] >> Legislative Updates and Legal Issues >> MA Forest and Park Friends Network Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/4/2010 7:42:13 AM   
Brian VT


Posts: 1521
Joined: 3/23/2003
From: Southern VT
Status: offline
This was in the NEDB mailbox:

Hello,

We are writing because you have expressed an interest in curtailing
illegal off highway vehicle use. Some of you are part of the OHV
community and recognize that illegal use is damaging to your image as
a user group and understand the negative impact of that. Others are
people who have had unfortunate encounters and feel intimidated and
threatened by riders. Still others are concerned about the negative
impacts to the environment caused by illegal use. People in both camps
are disappointed by the inability of government officials to address
our concerns.

The Friends Network is forming an ad-hoc committee to produce
recommendations for a comprehensive OHV enforcement plan that contains
a strong citizen component. Our goal is to submit the recommendations
to the DCR Stewardship Council as a guide to establishing a workable
plan that can be used using the current regulations as well as work
under new laws that may be passed in the future.

This meeting will be focused on one issue. Enforcement. We do not
intend to revisit the comprehensive work of the Department of
Conservation and Recreation (DCR) OHV Enforcement Working Group. Once
the bill using their work is passed we expect that a committee will be
established for ongoing discussions between the OHV Community and
others. Our intention is to review a plan developed by members of the
Friends Network and to ask for your suggestions and input.

We believe this committee should include representatives of
off-highway vehicle, snowmobile, mountain biking, hiking, equestrian,
birding, and environmental organization’s interests. Additionally,
we’re asking support from state agencies charged with development and
enforcement of OHV regulations, including DCR officials, MA
Environmental Police, State and local police, Bureau of Ranger
Services, DCR staff where riding is legal, DCR staff where riding is
illegal.

We won’t be starting from scratch. Over the past 3 years, Friends
Network Facilitators have collected data and suggestions on OHV
management from law enforcement officials and people on both sides of
the OHV issue, and we have researched what works in other states and
countries. Now we’re asking you—as stakeholders—to work with us to
complete recommendations that are fair, workable and make sense.

We anticipate not more than three meetings to refine a workable
document to present to the DCR Stewardship Council. If the Stewardship
Council accepts the recommendations, we will offer to work with DCR to
implement the citizen participation elements of the plan.

To keep the discussion manageable we will be limiting the participants
representatives of all views. If you are able to come to a meeting on
the date below please let us know. We will advise you if you are
selected to participate. For those not included in the actual meeting
we will continue to keep you abreast of the discussion and welcome any
suggestions you send.

OHV Recommendations Committee Meeting
Saturday, March 27, 10 - 2 p.m.
Richard Sugden Library Community Room
8 Pleasant Street
Spencer, MA
http://cts.vresp.com/c/?MAForestandParkFrien/8a9b46b5b7/220c073161/2a1107dc0f


Please apply by sending a statement of interest to
friend@networkingfriends.net

Draft Agenda – subject to participant input

Welcome, clarification of purpose, rules of engagement
Roundtable introductions and a statement of personal interest in the
OHV issue
Information sharing - informal presentations are encouraged, limit 10
- 15 min. each. (Please sign up in advance. Tell us what technical
support is needed)
Identify areas of agreement, disagreement and areas needing more work
Assign work to complete OHV management recommendations
Plan next meeting

General Topics
(We will send a comprehensive list to attendees and interested parties
before the meeting)
• Evaluation of enforcement tools and how they can used
effectively
• Better communication between state agencies and the public
• Public engagement programs, such as Park Watch
• Support for the Citizens Advisory Committee in the legislative
bill
• Increased public education and communication regarding the
current laws
• Citizen cooperation on the development of an OHV handbook

http://hosted.verticalresponse.com/600715/8a9b46b5b7/285702239/220c073161/
______________________________________________________________________
This message was sent by MA Forest and Park Friends Network

MA Forest and Park Friends Network
P.O. Box 1199
Plymouth, Massachusetts 02362

< Message edited by Brian VT -- 3/4/2010 12:02:44 PM >
Post #: 1
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/4/2010 7:59:23 AM   
fastlearner


Posts: 749
Joined: 4/12/2003
From: E. Hampton CT
Status: offline
We need a couple of our smartest, best-spoken people on this one.

_____________________________

Tony, Pathfinders MC
Seriously injured while riding? Need help? Click here: www.riderdown.org
Post #: 2
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/4/2010 10:25:43 AM   
chuggin

 

Posts: 139
Joined: 2/7/2007
Status: offline
  They make their agenda sound good on paper but it is their intentions and actions that should be speaking for them.  I'm sure they are willing to give up thousands of hours to surpress any riding. They talk about going after illegal riding but will they work for increasing riding areas if that is the truth to curtailing illegal riding or are they friends to shutting down more trails and turning all of us illegal?

They come to us in disguise. They know we are the best ones to turn on the illegal riders. They really want less dirtbikes period.  Why do you think people ride illegal when they register their bikes and have over a 2 hour ride one way to get to a tiny,used up trail system. Most of these designated areas offer nothing for kid riders,no garbage barrells or picnic tables, no toilets and a tiny parking area.

Your right we need to send our best to represent, but will they allow him or her to speak? At least as they speak you can reconize their true intentions.  Then I hope this rep can keep us informed at least.
Post #: 3
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/4/2010 10:47:06 AM   
Manray


Posts: 2177
Joined: 5/31/2001
From: Westford MA
Status: offline
Lets have a quick (non volatile please) discussion here about this. As the Godfather once said "Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer".

I would like to write back to them and ask if adding additional riding areas can be added to their agenda. Plead our case up front and work for our interests while in their camp.

_____________________________

Tower of Babble
LSMFT
Post #: 4
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/4/2010 10:51:46 AM   
chuggin

 

Posts: 139
Joined: 2/7/2007
Status: offline
Perfect. That's what my long winded response was trying to say.
Post #: 5
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/4/2010 10:58:40 AM   
chuggin

 

Posts: 139
Joined: 2/7/2007
Status: offline
  I don't know if the Friends of Freetown are affiliated but our Freetown friends took a stance for us against the DCR a couple of years back. Gordie knows the details. The friends of Freetown appreciate the work PSTR does in the forest and reconize we are the only user group doing any work.
Post #: 6
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/4/2010 11:04:43 AM   
baron


Posts: 367
Joined: 1/28/2007
From: another hotel...
Status: offline
Good call Manray... I'd be curious to see if a true negotiation can take place. They should be aware that illegal riding will be minimized and the impact of the riding will be lessened by multiple riding areas. Having one place to ride will not fix the problem... it might be worse.

_____________________________

"With sports, you get the results back right away. With life, it's not always so black and white."
Graduate of Mike's Enduro School 2008
2010 250xcw
Post #: 7
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/4/2010 11:14:56 AM   
Manray


Posts: 2177
Joined: 5/31/2001
From: Westford MA
Status: offline
My gut feeling would be that if they can not see the merit in adding (or considering adding) additional areas (to both relieve the stress on the present over ridden areas as well as give the illegal riders a legal place to ride-seeing that the state does collect a pile of money from us) that its a lost cause working with them. I know that the quads and snowmobilers probably will have representation there, we should make our presence known.

_____________________________

Tower of Babble
LSMFT
Post #: 8
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/4/2010 11:35:22 AM   
Rooks


Posts: 670
Joined: 6/2/2001
From: Plymouth MA
Status: offline
I doubt anyone with a 'pro' stance will be invited to their pow-wow. The agenda to me is pretty well outlined....and it has nothing to do with our wishes. I wonder if NETRA received an invite?

_____________________________

Always plan for the complete opposite of what the weatherman says.
Post #: 9
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/4/2010 11:40:02 AM   
gixxerw


Posts: 685
Joined: 12/30/2001
From: MA
Status: offline
That reminds me of that question from your wife "so what do you think?" she already knows HER answer but is trying to make you feel good.

_____________________________

1999 BMW K1200RS
2002 Aprilia RSV mille
1995 Husqvarna WXC 610
Post #: 10
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/4/2010 12:45:37 PM   
fastlearner


Posts: 749
Joined: 4/12/2003
From: E. Hampton CT
Status: offline
We can sit here on this site and speculate about their intentions or we can get to the table and represent ourselves professionally. Manray, in your letter could you please ask if non-MA-resident trail users are invited. If so, I'll go.

_____________________________

Tony, Pathfinders MC
Seriously injured while riding? Need help? Click here: www.riderdown.org
Post #: 11
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/4/2010 2:18:35 PM   
Manray


Posts: 2177
Joined: 5/31/2001
From: Westford MA
Status: offline
Will do Tony. I'll wait and see what some others have to say before I fire it out (probably very late tonight) but even if it is a hostile setting I have to believe we have to at least show up once and state our case. With any luck they will have snacks!

_____________________________

Tower of Babble
LSMFT
Post #: 12
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/30/2010 4:17:52 PM   
LumpyBoy

 

Posts: 156
Joined: 6/21/2005
From: Boston, MA
Status: offline
Just an observation: they are not likely entertain an agenda item regarding opening new areas.  They say specifically they are not looking at revisiting the DCR policies but instead only enforcement, which I interpret as "enforcement of the existing trails network" and nothing more27.  I suspect that they will decline to add an agenda item regarding new areas by stating that doing so is not consistent with their cause, which is focused solely on enforcement under the existing DCR policies and not whether those policies are right or wrong, including the fact that DCR is not currently doing anything (to my knowledge) to open new areas.  I agree that having some dialogue is probably the right thing to do, but our expectations should be measured.  The cynical part of me thinks that they are mostly looking to add credibility to their assessment by being able to list NEDB or NETRA as "partners" but will reject all of NEDB/NETRA's views.

edit: I see the meeting already occurred.  Anyone know what happened?

< Message edited by LumpyBoy -- 3/30/2010 4:19:25 PM >
Post #: 13
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/30/2010 7:08:01 PM   
Jack

 

Posts: 713
Joined: 4/20/2007
From: Stafford ,Ct.
Status: offline
Well they already have a 3 yr head-start ! So it sounds like they'er confident things are and will go in their favor ,thats way the invite!
People like that are so self-absorbed ,that any other opinion is beneith them.
It's time that the off rd community get together and let the Supreme Court decide!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Post #: 14
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/31/2010 2:54:49 PM   
loserbaby


Posts: 148
Joined: 6/11/2007
Status: offline
This is actually a good sign...that the State officials cannot get the enforcement done to the satisfaction of select taxpayers. Very similar to the State officials being unable to allocate resources to establishing more riding areas, to lessen impact...again to the satisfaction of select taxpayers (riding community). I can't help but recollect a ride with a slight landowner problem...said landowner was out during the event dropping trees across the trail. We came upon the felled trees and didn't know anything to do except for continue following the route sheet, jumping the trees. Eventually we came to the area where he was at work...and he came at us with his chain saw. Unfortunately, I thought he could run faster than I could negotiate the tree jumping behind me, so going forward following the route sheet seemed the best option. I wasn't the only one that thought this way and it was a free for all to get out of there. We surely would have stopped and talked to the guy and reported the problem to the trail boss if he wasn't brandishing that Husqvarna 51....I guess my point is enforcement is a difficult business.  Good luck to them...ther's going to be good black fly populations for their experiences...

_____________________________

Honey, I know I blew the food money on KTM parts...I'm a loserbaby, why not kill me?
Post #: 15
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 3/31/2010 6:39:20 PM   
C4131

 

Posts: 87
Joined: 2/15/2010
Status: offline
"This is actually a good sign...that the State officials cannot get the enforcement done to the satisfaction of select taxpayers."

In my opinion, that is not true.  What this seems to be is just another step to portend ineffectiveness of current enforcement, not an effort to change policy.  Likely, local PD's (via CoP) will be put to task as an end result.  Mo' problems, mo' money...  I won't be surprised to see the ORV sticker fees increased soon.

< Message edited by C4131 -- 3/31/2010 6:40:46 PM >
Post #: 16
RE: MA Forest and Park Friends Network - 4/29/2010 8:00:24 AM   
tacrac

 

Posts: 21
Joined: 5/21/2005
Status: offline

March / April 2010 No. 35

Improving Trails, Protecting Resources

Trails are the intersection of conservation and recreation.  They are the pathways through which we can experience, explore, interact and connect with beauty, diversity and wonder of nature.  However, trail construction, maintenance and use also impact the nature that we are there to enjoy.  Most times, the ecological impacts of trails are minor and limited, and certainly worth the trade off of appropriate public access into natural areas, but sometime these impacts can be significant or serious, and should be avoided. 

All recreational trail uses have impacts to the environment.  Whether you are a bird watcher or a bike rider, your presence contributes to:

Vegetation trampling
Soil compaction and displacement
Wildlife disturbance
Potentially, erosion and sedimentation into wetland resource areas

Among the factors that contribute to the extent of these impacts are the magnitude of trail use, trail layout and design, and user behavior.  For example, trails with higher levels of use, will likely have greater impacts in terms of soil compaction, trail widening, vegetation trampling and wildlife disturbance than those with lower use levels.  Fall line trails (those that are oriented directly downhill), are much more likely to channel water, erode and produce sedimentation than well-designed contour trails (those that roughly follow the contour and have grade changes designed into them to shed water).  Off-trail activities – including free-riding, off-leash dogs, and off-trail nature study – extend the environmental impacts of recreational use beyond the existing trail network.

Of particular concern to trail builders, maintainers and users should be areas where off-trail uses or existing trails intersect with sensitive resources, such as:

Wetland resource areas
Vernal pools
Rare and endangered species habitats
Priority natural vegetation communities
Sensitive archeological and cultural sites

Protecting Wetland Resources
Trails can negatively impact wetland resources when they directly traverse wetlands without sustainable surfaces, and when they generate sedimentation through displacement and erosion that is carried into wetland resources.  The primary contributor to wetland impacts is trail design, including the presence of sustainable wetland crossing structures such as stepping stones, bridges and boardwalks.

In Massachusetts, any activity, including trail construction or maintenance, that has the potential to fill, remove, dredge or alter wetland resource areas (including bordering vegetated wetlands and the 200 foot riverfront area) must be permitted through the local conservation commission.  The conservation commission will determine whether a project is subject to the Wetlands Protection Act, and if so, what conditions must be met to protect wetland resources.

It is important to note that mud holes or wet trail segments are not necessarily wetland resource areas, and do not necessarily impact wetland resources through sedimentation.  The primary impact of wet trail areas is trail widening and vegetation trampling as users try to avoid them.

Protecting Vernal Pools
Vernal pools are important wildlife habitats (temporary wetlands) best known for the amphibians and invertebrate animals that use them to breed.  Some vernal pools are important breeding habitat for rare and endangered species.  The Massachusetts Natural Heritage and Endangered Species Program (NHESP) “certifies” the occurrence of vernal pools, and this certification process relies on volunteers to identify, document and submit findings to NHESP.

Most vertebrate species that depend on vernal pools for breeding spend the majority of their lives in the upland habitat around the pool.  Thus, NHESP has provided the following recommendations to consider when maintaining and constructing trails near vernal pool.  These include: 

Consult existing maps or NHESP to determine the location of vernal pools near proposed trail construction or maintenance projects
Identify, and if possible certify, vernal pools near trails
Maintain pool water quality by adopting best management practices that prevent erosion of sediments into pools
Maintain shading around pools, do not clear vegetation around pool edges
Maintain habitat structure in adjacent upland by not disturbing rocks, tree trunks and branches near pool
Maintain habitat structure in pools by not removing or piling branches
Close and / or re-route any trails within vernal pools
Try to avoid building trails within 50 feet of a vernal pool
Consider relocating heavily traveled trails 100 ft. away from vernal pools

Protecting Threatened and Endangered Species 
Rare plants and animals exemplify the beauty and diversity of the natural world.  There mere existence can be inspiring and motivating.  However, threatened and endangers species also brings home the fragility of the natural world and our role as humans in forces of either protection or destruction.  Over 440 species of plants and animals are protected under the Massachusetts Endangered Species Act (MESA).  MESA protects state-listed rare species and their habitats by prohibiting the “take” of any species that is listed as Endangered, Threatened, or of Special Concern.  A “Take” is any activity that directly kills or injures a MESA-listed species, as well as activities that disrupt rare species behavior and their habitat.

Trail building activities have the potential to “take” rare species and are thus subject to review by the Massachusetts Natural Heritage and Endangered Species Program (http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dfw/nhesp/nhesp.htm) if they occur in areas that have been delineated as “Priority Habitat.” 

For example, vista clearing on a ridge top has the potential to destroy a rare woody plant.  A boardwalk through a marsh might disturb endangered nesting birds.  Or a new trail next to a vernal pool might contribute to mortality of threatened salamanders. 

You can determine if your project will occur within Priority Habitat with the help of the Priority Habitat on-line viewer (http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dfw/nhesp/regulatory_review/priority_habitat/online_viewer.htm). If your trail project is located within priority habitat, you must file a MESA project review checklist. 

Protecting Archeological Resources
New trail construction, particularly if it involves soil excavation, has the potential to disturb historic and pre-historic archeological resources that may still exist below ground.  In addition, trails and trail use could impact historic structures such as stone walls or cellar holes. 

Any trail project that is on state property or is funded through state or federal funds (including Recreational Trails Grants) require review from the Massachusetts Historic Commission (MHC; http://www.sec.state.ma.us/mhc/) and require a Project Notification Form.  This form may be found at http://www.sec.state.ma.us/MHC/mhcform/formidx.htm.  If the project is not in an area with archeological and/or cultural resources, the MHC will not require anything further.  If the project is in such an area, or in an area that meets the criteria for a site that might have archeological resources, the MHC may request additional information or an archaeological survey. 
 
Tips and Tools (Mattock and McLeod)
Request for Determination of Applicability form, for use with local conservation commissions, is at http://www.mass.gov/dep/water/approvals/wpaform1.pdf.
Massachusetts Department of Environmental Protection website:  http://www.mass.gov/dep/
 
Massachusetts Natural Heritage and Endangered Species Program’s (NHESP) online viewer, with explanations, is at http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dfw/nhesp/regulatory_review/priority_habitat/online_viewer.htm
MESA Project Review Checklist is at http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dfw/nhesp/regulatory_review/pdf/mesa_proj_review_check_elect.pdf
NHESP website:  http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dfw/nhesp/nhesp.htm
 
Massachusetts Historical Commission’s (MHC) Project Notification Form is online at http://www.sec.state.ma.us/MHC/mhcform/formidx.htm
MHC website:  http://www.sec.state.ma.us/mhc/
 
2010 Changes to Motorized Trail Opportunities in
Pittsfield State Forest
DCR is initiating a planning and design process to rehabilitate and improve the Pittsfield State Forest trail system for multi-use (motorized and non-motorized) recreational access and resource protection.  During the process, DCR will close approximately 20 miles of the currently designated ATV and motorcycle trails in the Forest for the 2010 season to protect rare species and sensitive wetland resources.  Approximately 14 miles of Pittsfield State Forest’s ATV and motorcycle trails will remain open for those uses for the 2010 season.  The trail system is scheduled to open to recreational ATV and motorcycle use on Saturday, May 29, 2010.  To maximize rider safety and enjoyment and minimize degradation of the remaining trails from overuse during the closure period, DCR will institute an ATV and motorcycle recreational use permit system for Pittsfield State Forest.  A maximum of 50 rider permits will be issued through Pittsfield State Forest headquarters each day. 

More information is available at http://www.mass.gov/dcr/recreate/ohv/pittsfieldplanning.pdf, and additional information on the permit system will be posted on DCR’s website as it becomes available.
 
On the Path Ahead
DCR Park Serve Day
DCR’s statewide volunteer day, Park Serve will be held Saturday, April 24th.  Why not join Governor Patrick, Lt. Governor Murray, Secretary Bowles and Commissioner Sullivan and pick a park, give a day and make a difference!  Many of the 67 sites have Friends groups co-sponsoring their events and signing up additional volunteers throughout the state.  If you are interested in participating in this year’s Park Serve Day, please visit our website to register on-line:  www.mass.gov/dcr/parkserve.

National Park Service Community Assistance: Application deadline August 1
The National Park Service can provide staff time to assist community-led natural resource conservation and outdoor recreation initiatives. NPS staff provide guidance to communities so they can develop trails and greenways, conserve waterways and preserve open space. Currently NPS is working on four projects in Massachusetts (http://www.nps.gov/ncrc/programs/rtca/whatwedo/projects/MA.pdf).

Prospective applicants should discuss their project with NPS before applying for assistance. It can be helpful to schedule an advance field visit by our staff to best understand how RTCA can be of assistance. For more information, visit http://www.nps.gov/rtca or contact Charles Tracy, Massachusetts Director (charles_tracy@nps.gov or 617-223-5210).
 
 
To unsubscribe from this list, simply email paul.jahnige@state.ma.us with your email address and type “unsubscribe” in the subject or body.
 
To subscribe, please email your contact information to paul.jahnige@state.ma.us.

Please forward to others who might be interested in Massachusetts Greenways and Trails.


Connections is the electronic newsletter from the Department of Conservation and Recreation’s Greenways and Trails Program,
Paul Jahnige, Director
136 Damon Road
Northampton, MA 01060
(413) 586-8706 ext. 20
paul.jahnige@state.ma.us
www.mass.gov/dcr/stewardship/greenway/index.htm


Deval Patrick, Governor
Tim Murray, Lieutenant Governor
Ian Bowles, Secretary, Energy and Environmental Affairs
Rick Sullivan, Commissioner, Department of Conservation and Recreation

DCR Greenways
Post #: 17
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [Dirt Bikes General] >> [Dirtbiking and the Law] >> Legislative Updates and Legal Issues >> MA Forest and Park Friends Network Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.5.5 Unicode

0.109