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fuma -> RE: RI event 20 April (4/21/2008 10:06:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bmac

Fuma most people can do hits, it's the tecnical stuff that takes the points, glad you had fun.



Your spot on.  Trials takes patience and precision, getting the adrenaline going on the first loop doesn't work out well.  I had a lot of fun and enjoyed the event.



STEVEC -> RE: RI event 20 April (4/22/2008 3:15:18 PM)

Bill,

Excellent event - Novice sections were spot-on.

Do you think the lack of lines had something to do with telling everyone they could start at any section? I was expecting long lines with the short loop. How many riders where there?



danwilms -> RE: RI event 20 April (4/22/2008 5:05:46 PM)

As I've been saying for years a short loop and letting people start where they want is the only effective way to get rid of long lines.



motofire -> RE: RI event 20 April (4/22/2008 5:14:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: danwilms

As I've been saying for years a short loop and letting people start where they want is the only effective way to get rid of long lines.
Absolutely...Long loops dont help at all. It may separate the fast riders from the slower ones by a minute(probably half that) at most in between sections.



fury1 -> RE: RI event 20 April (4/22/2008 8:01:25 PM)

agreed,I started at section 3 with that nice cutoff back to the pits at section 4,I knew I would have a quick day,got in about 1pm after 5 loops,well six if you count the extra loop after somehow skipping seven and eight and having to go around again[:D] pretty sure Dan was a little confused when I was bushwacking around his section to get back on trail!



fury1 -> RE: RI event 20 April (4/22/2008 8:03:42 PM)

I also saw a few bikes out there with no numbers at all?? names and class,but no numbers,is this ok? because my plate would look way better with my name in bigger letters,but the number takes up so much room!



bmac -> RE: RI event 20 April (4/22/2008 8:39:50 PM)

Steve, Thanks. WE had 63 jr/nov/ex  and 8 youth/beginner. I have allways thought starting where you want helped the lines. I know Dan thinks so to . It seemd to work Sunday.



bmac -> RE: RI event 20 April (4/22/2008 8:45:20 PM)

fury1: Iam glad the short loop helped you. I had a few people fix there plates befor the event. One guy I sent back 3 times befor he got it right. I am sure I missed some. The plate just makes it easer for the checkers, they can see what line will be riden



bmac -> RE: RI event 20 April (4/22/2008 8:54:02 PM)

I want to THANK all the NEDB guys who checked the event.
And THANKS to the guys and gals from out of state who checked.
Many THANKS to my scoreing team.
John THANKS for taking the Youths around.

Bill Mac



motofire -> RE: RI event 20 April (4/22/2008 9:22:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bmac

John THANKS for taking the Youths around.

Bill Mac
My pleasure....Thanks!



bmac -> RE: RI event 20 April (4/22/2008 9:50:05 PM)

I don't know if any one noticed, that in the Novice sections there was only one Jr split, that was in sec 5.

It must have been ok, havent heard any thing. YET. So do we really need a jr split???
They did ok at Meriden to with no splits.



motofire -> RE: RI event 20 April (4/23/2008 9:00:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bmac

So do we really need a jr split???

Bill,

Maybe....

I heard from a junior that the sections were great and that split wasnt even that bad...maybe not even needed. I think what it comes down to, you laid out very tight and technical sections that were not that dangerous which is perfect! Some clubs may not have that luxury though due to the terrain thats available. It also comes down to experience laying out a section. Which being as old as you are you have lots of that! [:)]



blackduc98 -> RE: RI event 20 April (4/23/2008 12:52:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: motofire
quote:

ORIGINAL: danwilms
As I've been saying for years a short loop and letting people start where they want is the only effective way to get rid of long lines.
Absolutely...Long loops dont help at all. It may separate the fast riders from the slower ones by a minute(probably half that) at most in between sections.

Bmac explicitly told people to take advantage of it, and it worked really well at this event. The lines were much shorter than at Meriden. It can be scientifically proven that starting in different sections is by far the most effective way to alleviate congestion. It is called queueing theory. I would suggest that it should be standard operating procedure, and it should be encouraged.

You could take this one step further and randomly assign riders to start at a particular section, though I can see people objecting to starting on the most difficult section. There would also need to be time compensation for those who don't start in section 1 because they have to ride part of an extra loop to turn in their last loop card, which doesn't really matter unless you're running out of time. Having said all this, I suspect this may have been thought of and/or tried before. All in all the present self-choice system is probably best.



bmac -> RE: RI event 20 April (4/23/2008 3:52:19 PM)

Thanks John I am very OLD, but not as old as some.



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